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« on: February 24, 2010, 02:09:57 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 10:33:53 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2010, 10:46:05 PM »

notice that on all SB suggestions AP is removed  Shocked
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2010, 12:08:16 AM »

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Some cards are really like that. They're good when in Round 1, but you have to sideboard something more deck-specific. For example, if you take out AP from the maindeck, what would you replace in the SB as main deck? Against control decks where you have to side out dead removal, you of course have to take out the Persecutors.

My comment, weird to see no sideboarding strategy against mirror or GWx decks. It's understood that the new post-San Diego decks are not there against sideboarding since their relatively new but it's a good suggestion for an update. Otherwise, the article is good since you go to detail with your card choices and your sideboarding strategies.
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2010, 02:54:09 PM »

thanks for the comments. some replies-

@ shivan- thanks jojo! nakauwi na ulit sa PH? Playtest!

@ mr. nemata- yup. jund is strongest post board since it can adapt to a lot of decks and still maintain sufficient card advantage. putting up a strong and aggressive albeit a bit different main board would make your match up better against opponents who spent lots of time testing against the classic build. 

@cmdrjanjalani- yes you are right, no SB strategies were discussed vs GWx builds who went strong in PT:San Diego. with those results, i would suggest considering putting-in at least a couple of jund charms built in. the deck in theory should also have a good match against chapin's UW control, although i admit that we still have to do ample playtests against these new decks.
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2010, 03:55:18 PM »

This was a good read. Hopefully we get more articles like this Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2010, 05:47:15 PM »

@cmdrjanjalani- yes you are right, no SB strategies were discussed vs GWx builds who went strong in PT:San Diego. with those results, i would suggest considering putting-in at least a couple of jund charms built in. the deck in theory should also have a good match against chapin's UW control, although i admit that we still have to do ample playtests against these new decks.

Thanks sa feedback kaso since you posted this article naman nung fresh na fresh pa yung San Diego it's understandable. Yung lack of tips against the Jund mirror nalang since it's sureball matchup you will face.
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2010, 11:20:53 PM »

@ author:

was there a time when you have already (technically) won but the lack of removal for the persecutor didn't allow you to win, or it gave the opponent a chance to win (or he did actually win) before you could remove it yourself?

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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2010, 02:36:32 AM »

@ author:

was there a time when you have already (technically) won but the lack of removal for the persecutor didn't allow you to win, or it gave the opponent a chance to win (or he did actually win) before you could remove it yourself?

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while it was fortunate that there wasn't in any of the recent tournaments which i joined, it still happens during play tests. it is something i believe you need to accept the moment you put him in your deck... but you should also take note that it is highly unlikely that the persecutor is kept very long in the battlefield by an opponent (unless he knows he is winning anyway). if you manage to fight against it quite several times you will realize that you would have to eliminate it yourself- either to push an attack without the demon defending or protect yourself not to have 0 or less life (otherwise all creature elim cards just ends the game). it is very rare that an opponent would leave it unchecked, and just rely with prayers that the controller has no means to get rid of it.

the good thing about the persecutor is that it is so big that direct creature elim/wipe aside, it draws card advantage and a favorable board position for the owner. the minimal cost of summoning it makes it also easier for you to trade especially if you think that it is to your advantage- eg. blocking a putrid leech even though you know there's likely a bolt in your opponent's hand, in which you are up by one card and 2 life. if your opponent used path to exile on your demon then it is not too bad, you get a land and more mileage with your thrinaxes.
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