2009.10.21 -- Magic Moments Ep. 8: Pros and Cons

[icky3499]

I'm sure the national regulars noticed the increase this year.  It's a sign that magic is doing well in the RP.  I understand that this is just a hobby for most of us and we do things for the greater good.  I'm not proposing any drastic adjustments.  I'm just questioning how we can be at par with other countries.  I really can't understand why in abroad that they hold less events with less players but still offer more prizes.

Btw, hindi ako sasali kung P700 ang standard entrance fee unless sobrang galing ko at confident ako sa deck ko.  Sa limited ok lang magbayad ng extra kasi may sure cards naman.

[ngphil]

It all boils down to Per capita spending.

[icky3499]

Yun lang.

[smallfry]

Okay naman sa akin ang tournaments na pinapatakbo ng NG.  I also went to the Comic Quest tourney and shelled out 700.  I didn't get a prize but I still enjoyed myself.  Baka ako yung hobbyist na tinutukoy dun sa isang earlier post.  Hehehe.

Gotta admit though that it would be great if gumanda ang incentives sa tournaments.  Dapat di sya parang FNM.  That way, lalakas ang competition and more people will join.  I think rewarding people well for playing in tournaments is the best way to create a professional Magic player and broaden the player base.  When you play eight rounds, pay 250 and end up with a 5-3 record and don't have anything to show for it, it leaves a bad taste in your mouth.  I would rather spend that much time and money on a girl.  Then again, addict ako sa Magic so loyal tournament player pa rin ako.  Hehehe.

Ang galing sa ibang countries kasi they offer scholarships, $5000, etc.  The incentives are there to make parents supportive of their kids' endeavors or for those who want to be pros to get on the gravy train.  I agree that getting sponsors is one way to go but is this how the other stores in other countries did it?  Nagpa-sponsor ba talaga sila? 

In any case, maraming salamat sa mga stores na nagpapa-tournaments and the judges who run these.  Minsan kasi nakakalimutan natin mga players magpasalamat sa mga taong may passion for the game even though masakit sa bulsa nila or kinakain ang oras nila.

[l_i_z]

So even while we laugh at some so-called “noob” for making awful decks and drafting bad cards which somehow affect our own drafts, remember that this guy, should he be given sufficient encouragement and allowed to improve, could one day be the first Filipino to be a fixture on the Magic Pro Tour.

Sweet! How inspiring! Good job. ^_^

- 1noob

[swanniesbaby]

Im with sir ngphil on leaning towards sponsorships. companies spend millions for advertisements alone. the trick here with be to find a product or a company that can capitalize on Magic's market. like from previous post maggi magic sarap and magic flakes. It might sound absurd but it makes sense.. not to mention power drinks and mind boosting supplements with can target our market as well..

Another thing.. some sports are pretty much supported not only by parents but by schools as well.. We can show how magic can be a good influence, compared to a sport, to a student and how schools can capitalize if they have student that becomes national champion or to be the first Filipino top 8 appearance in Pro Tour..

I'm sure some of us have experience choosing a university that houses the best sports team. So sir NG we might want to look at how sports started out as hobbies and evolved into an advertizing campaign.. I was a taekwondo instructor/coach before and I have experience taekwondo when it was just starting here. The previous Magic Nationals has more attendees than the previous taekwondo tournaments before. but look at taekwondo now.. Their strategy is to focus on shools.. scheduling tournaments such as INTER-SCHOOL.. SCHOOL DUAL-MEETS that students can represent their schools.. they would go to university when they reach college and woud represent their universities.. then turn pro.. Just like the usual ascension of a varsity player to a pro. Just a marketing idea.. 

FUTURE SIGHT:

Event Philippine National Magic Intercollegiate Championships
Venue: Araneta Coliseum

announcer: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Philippine National Magic Intercollegiate Championships. fighting of from the red corner,  Hailing from Quezon City... Representing Mapua Institute of Technology... Aaaaldriiiiiin Paaaaaliiiiiiimaaaaa!!!!
(crowd roars!!)...

[wangbu]

Im with sir ngphil on leaning towards sponsorships. companies spend millions for advertisements alone. the trick here with be to find a product or a company that can capitalize on Magic's market. like from previous post maggi magic sarap and magic flakes. It might sound absurd but it makes sense.. not to mention power drinks and mind boosting supplements with can target our market as well..

yon! may nag agree din! hahaha... exactly my point... had to put it up in a comical way but i think it really makes sense...
let start with MILO.... then sa ultra-PRO products... (may items ba sila that protect other kinds of collections aside from cards?)

sana din magkaron na ng bagong INQUEST.... natalo na kasi ng high speed info from the internet e...

Another thing.. some sports are pretty much supported not only by parents but by schools as well.. We can show how magic can be a good influence, compared to a sport, to a student and how schools can capitalize if they have student that becomes national champion or to be the first Filipino top 8 appearance in Pro Tour..

I'm sure some of us have experience choosing a university that houses the best sports team. So sir NG we might want to look at how sports started out as hobbies and evolved into an advertizing campaign.. I was a taekwondo instructor/coach before and I have experience taekwondo when it was just starting here. The previous Magic Nationals has more attendees than the previous taekwondo tournaments before. but look at taekwondo now.. Their strategy is to focus on shools.. scheduling tournaments such as INTER-SCHOOL.. SCHOOL DUAL-MEETS that students can represent their schools.. they would go to university when they reach college and woud represent their universities.. then turn pro.. Just like the usual ascension of a varsity player to a pro. Just a marketing idea.. 

this is the part where we will have problems... CARDs are in a way attached to stereotypes of gambling here in our country... gambling --> bad habits --> corruption --> satanism... WTF! and we all know misconcepcions play a huge part on what you are promoting... schools dont allow children to play(and even confiscate their cards), heck even mall guards halt players when they play in malls...(just ask zax ozaki how his tournament venue in festival supermall was invaded by deck-grabbing guards)

another problem here is the involvement of money in the purchase of the cards... kids cant afford them(i know first hand) and taking into consideration the fact that cards today go up to insane prices... hello wallet-slayer angel

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FUTURE SIGHT:

Event Philippine National Magic Intercollegiate Championships
Venue: Araneta Coliseum

announcer: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Philippine National Magic Intercollegiate Championships. fighting of from the red corner,  Hailing from Quezon City... Representing Mapua Institute of Technology... Aaaaldriiiiiin Paaaaaliiiiiiimaaaaa!!!!
(crowd roars!!)...
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wangbu likes this!

announcer = whoelse but mr. butch maniego....

[hazeofrage]

FUTURE SIGHT:

Event Philippine National Magic Intercollegiate Championships
Venue: Araneta Coliseum

announcer: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Philippine National Magic Intercollegiate Championships. fighting of from the red corner,  Hailing from Quezon City... Representing Mapua Institute of Technology... Aaaaldriiiiiin Paaaaaliiiiiiimaaaaa!!!!
(crowd roars!!)...

pwede din inter store, like ng glorietta vs ng cebu. hehehehehe

[En Sabah Nur]

^ yung inter-store competitions ang noon ko pa gusto makita eh! siguro pwede naman i acknowledge na Rob Galleria ang central location natin eh, so round robin eliminations between NG ATC vs Mike O's place, NG Megamall vs PhilCOA peeps (can somebody make a flowchart here?!  ), a south vs east, north vs west kinda thing should promote the game especially in between sets when there's a lull between events

[smallfry]

Magandang idea ang inter-store competition!  Sana magawa ito agad.  Nice suggestion!

[swanniesbaby]

@Wangbu: that's the challenge.. changing the stereotype.. and also the price of the cards would be shouldered by the parents or the school if they become varsity.. Schools pays for supplies of all varsity players right.. and the parents buy's equipment for their kids..

[allisonlim]

haha, gusto ko yung inter-stores! saya nyun, labanan at pataasan ng points, tapos may season

or kahit clan, tulad dito may SSC group na tayo, lol

yung sa school, kung sakaling support ng schools ang gastusin sa cards, e d ang may ari ata nyun ay yung schools na rin... so parang may-stocks sila tuwing kelangan ang isang card heheh, para kung gagraduate na ang varsity nila, yung cards maiiwan at magagamit ng mga bagong pasok...

pwede din itulad sa chess, mind games! baka after 10 years, kasama na ang magic sa UAAP din

[butchm]

now it's inspiring to see how ideas can be generated by articles...which is why i wish people would write more (including me)

that said - my next article should be up soon

[ramonvelasquez]

now it's inspiring to see how ideas can be generated by articles...which is why i wish people would write more (including me)

that said - my next article should be up soon

Were looking forward to the next article sir. 

[raggster]

Just to anticipate the "cost" argument for the school-based teams idea: why no focus on Limited formats? It'll be easier to track/manage the costs, players can provide their own packs for practice (or their "club" funds can be utilized in part for this), and compared to Constructed formats mas mura ang Limited. This can also help new players build up their card pool to eventually play Constructed formats also, outside of the school-based circuit.